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Re: my new toy.
« Reply #135 on: May 24, 2017, 08:29:02 AM »
so, I am thinking this car no longer really qualifies for the grocery getter daily driver section.   sctatcherhead

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Pretty impressive results.  Glad you are pleased.
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Re: my new toy.
« Reply #136 on: May 24, 2017, 01:29:51 PM »
so, I am thinking this car no longer really qualifies for the grocery getter daily driver section.   sctatcherhead

Don't let a little thing like burning rubber from the end of your driveway to the grocery store, then doing the same on the return trip stop you from calling it yer lil grocery getter. It still gets you to the store and back right? Even if it does so under a dense cloud of burned rubber!  drivex
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Re: my new toy.
« Reply #137 on: May 24, 2017, 02:30:22 PM »
so, I am thinking this car no longer really qualifies for the grocery getter daily driver section.   sctatcherhead

Don't let a little thing like burning rubber from the end of your driveway to the grocery store, then doing the same on the return trip stop you from calling it yer lil grocery getter. It still gets you to the store and back right? Even if it does so under a dense cloud of burned rubber!  drivex

ah so true.  I did take it to the store yesterday, and drove it to work today.  so maybe it does still qualify.  although I am finding I have to fill the tank more often than I used to.

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Re: my new toy.
« Reply #138 on: May 24, 2017, 02:40:30 PM »
so, I am thinking this car no longer really qualifies for the grocery getter daily driver section.   sctatcherhead

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Pretty impressive results.  Glad you are pleased.

thanks.  it is a fun little car that gets a lot of looks going down the road.  it is no show car.  but that is partly why it is fun.  I can have fun with it and not worry if it gets a rock chip or something

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Re: my new toy.
« Reply #139 on: May 24, 2017, 03:50:44 PM »
^^^^^^^And that is why I would never want a near perfect car.  I don't want to sweat a nick or chip. 
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« Reply #140 on: May 24, 2017, 11:45:41 PM »
well, I already have a show car, and a nice looking cruiser car, so this is my decent looking hotrod car.  different car, different purpose I guess.  btw, I went to walmart after work and got groceries so there you have it lol. beerdude

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Re: my new toy.
« Reply #141 on: May 26, 2017, 09:46:34 AM »
well, I already have a show car, and a nice looking cruiser car, so this is my decent looking hotrod car.  different car, different purpose I guess.  btw, I went to walmart after work and got groceries so there you have it lol. beerdude

But did you burn rubber on the way home?  ;)
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Re: my new toy.
« Reply #142 on: June 02, 2017, 05:13:58 PM »
well, yeah just a little onflame

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Re: my new toy.
« Reply #143 on: July 02, 2017, 01:40:12 AM »
I finally decided to tackle the gauges.  man have I mentioned I hate wiring.  well I bought this gauge package because it had this nice plug and play harness that plugged right into the stock wiring harness.  I get the gauges and they sent a universal wiring harness.  not happy.  I called and talked to them.  apparently they stopped making the plug and play harness, but still advertise it with those pictures.  that is pretty dishonest if you ask me.  they did offer to take them back and refund me, but all the other instrument clusters for this car also just come with a universal harness so I while I would get the satisfaction of not giving them my money, it would not help me out any so I decided to keep them.  I am going to give them a scathing review however.  anyway I finally decided to tackle it.  there instructions suck by the way.  they tell you how to wire up the universal harness to the gauges in the cluster.  gee thanks all the gauges come with instructions then the instructions literally say to use an electrical tester and probe the wires and wire the vehicle side wiring to the correct wires.  :eek::eek::confused:  no pinout diagram no help at all in figuring out wich wires go where.    I finally found a decent diagram on line to help me get some idea what wires go where.  I did a bunch of research to make sure where the wires go.  I ran new wires for the oil and temp sending unit.  after buying the setup and reviewing the wiring for the electronic speedometer I discovered that wiring an electronic speedometer to this car frequently causes problems with the cruise control since this car had a composite speed sensor/speedometer cable unit.  so I decided heck with it and bought a gps speedometer like what I have in the yj.  then I just cut the speedometer cable off at the sender and left the speed sensor in place so that should not affect my cruise control or my idle because the computer uses the speed sensor in adjusting the idle as well. 

so once I figured out all the wiring I test fit the cluster.



then I decided since I have the dash apart and my stereo never worked the way I thought it should.  ( I always had to open my phone and push play on my phone to get the blue tooth to play instead of just pushing play on the remote, and the microphone for the hand free calling never worked)  I decided to swap the stereo and the front speakers.  so I waited for crutchfield to send me some new speakers and stereo.  crutchfield stuff is always good.   the speakers fit perfectly, but for some reason the wiring harness adapters would not fit onto the new speakers so I had to cut the positive connectors off and put new ones on, but no big deal.


then I wired up the new harness adapter for the stereo.  pretty straightforward, all plug and play pretty much.  the wires are even the same color, so not hard.  plugged it in and it worked fine first try yeaah.

ok.  so after that I decided I should test all my connections on my instrument cluster and everything worked except my gauge lights.  I had forgotten to hook up the instrument light wire.  no big deal just pull off four screws, find the correct wire and t-tap it in.  turned on the light switch and it worked, adjust the dimmer, it dims and brightens just like it should.  then I started the car and the stupid instrument lights came on.  they are not supposed to do that lol.  It was getting late.  and I was aggravated.  I tested the wires, couldn't find anywhere that I had a crossed wire, no reason that there should be any current going from my 12v to my dimmer circuit.  but there was.  I decided to work on something else for a while and so I started modifying the housing to fit the new cluster.  that was a major PITA as well.  once I finally got it to fit reasonably well it was late and I quit for the night.

Oh I almost forgot.  I also was told by someone I should get a wide band o2 sensor since I had the supercharger on there so I got one and wired it and my new matching boost gauge into the new pillar pod.

so I was talking to my Dad at supper tonight and we were discussing the light issue, and he asked me about the stereo install.  I did not really think that was the issue at first because while there was a dash illumination wire on the wiring harness adapter, the new stereo did not have one so I just left that wire unconnected.  but that got me to thinking when I wired up my pillar gauges there was a t-tap attached to the dimmer switch so I just pulled that tap and wired my new gauges and that wire together and plugged them back in.  I did not look to see where that original wire went.  it turns out it was a park brake wire.  when the old stereo was installed apparently they bypassed the park brake by running a wire to the dash illumination wire.  when I plugged the new wiring harness in somehow that wire was still connected to something so I just removed it.  now everything works properly. 










a couple small things.  these cars apparently have a circuit that runs through the instrument cluster  that monitors the alternator.  if you do not complete that circuit the alternator exciter will not engage. so you have to run a switched 12 v wire to the alternator exciter wire, the light green with red stripe wire.  in the wiring diagram i used that wire is in the right hand connector, but on my car it is in the left hand connector,  but other than that this diagram was what should have accompanied my gauges imho.

https://www.stangnet.com/tech/cluster87-93.pdf

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Re: my new toy.
« Reply #144 on: July 02, 2017, 03:26:42 AM »
Those gauges look really sharp. very nice.
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Re: my new toy.
« Reply #145 on: July 02, 2017, 11:17:57 AM »
After all that, I'd be afraid to throw a light switch in the house.

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Re: my new toy.
« Reply #146 on: July 02, 2017, 06:43:01 PM »
After all that, I'd be afraid to throw a light switch in the house.

I am not sure I understand that comment.  are you saying that with my luck the house would explode, or I might decide that since the light bulb was burned out I ought to rewire the whole house and automate everything.  I do have a bad case of whileIamatit-itis I am afraid. sctatcherhead

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Re: my new toy.
« Reply #147 on: July 04, 2017, 12:27:57 PM »
Unannounced changes with after market stuff doesn't surprise me.   After 30 years + at the dealerships, trying to make aftermarket stuff work, finally ripping it out, then trying to make the originals work, sounds like same old stuff.  What the factory puts in may not be great or pretty but usually continues to work.  Glad you made it through all that. 

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