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Painting with Valspar Tractor and Implement
« on: August 01, 2014, 09:48:45 PM »
Finally got to picking up some paint for my cement mixer, some Valspar Tractor and Implement paint and the dark red primer.  Also got the VM&P Naphtha.  Directions for spray for the paint seem to indicate mixing 8fl oz to a gallon, which I think means one part Naphtha to 16 parts paint.

There were no spray directions on the primer.

Does this ratio sound right in your experience?  How about the primer?

The MSDS indicates that the Naphtha is nasty stuff.  I'm assuming outdoor application only, if the weather holds...

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Re: Painting with Valspar Tractor and Implement
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2014, 10:24:46 PM »
Can't help you with the specific mix, but I'd think that it would be adjusted according to temperature.  I'd also look into a compatible hardener for the paint. 

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Re: Painting with Valspar Tractor and Implement
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2014, 11:21:48 PM »
see what the Valspar recommends as a reducer. I painted a winch cradle last week with Rustoluem black and used some medium  enamel reducer that I had ,put 3 coats on it and let it sit 4 days. the paint never did "harden up" . it could be scratched/dented with a fingernail. As SD stated look into the hardener too.
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Re: Painting with Valspar Tractor and Implement
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2014, 12:06:54 AM »
Well, the Naphtha was what was on the paint cans as the recommendation, I'll have to see if I can find anything on the primer, and on any hardeners.

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Re: Painting with Valspar Tractor and Implement
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2014, 06:57:56 AM »
see what the Valspar recommends as a reducer. I painted a winch cradle last week with Rustoluem black and used some medium  enamel reducer that I had ,put 3 coats on it and let it sit 4 days. the paint never did "harden up" . it could be scratched/dented with a fingernail. As SD stated look into the hardener too.

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Re: Painting with Valspar Tractor and Implement
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2014, 08:23:00 AM »
Well, the Naphtha was what was on the paint cans as the recommendation, I'll have to see if I can find anything on the primer, and on any hardeners.

Hardener is typically use for low temps, I would think the instructions will indicate temp ranges, best advise do not cross manufacture types for paint, it is a chemistry that works together. Yes you may pay a bit more, but the results will be as you wish.
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Re: Painting with Valspar Tractor and Implement
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2014, 12:03:21 PM »
I did find reference to a hardener for this paint, but the local place doesn't carry it.  We'll see.  I'm in no rush, but I wouldn't mind getting the workshop space back either.

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Re: Painting with Valspar Tractor and Implement
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2014, 12:19:05 PM »
I did find reference to a hardener for this paint, but the local place doesn't carry it.  We'll see.  I'm in no rush, but I wouldn't mind getting the workshop space back either.

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Re: Painting with Valspar Tractor and Implement
« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2014, 05:00:40 PM »
I've sprayed a few pieces with Valspar. First, get the hardener -- without it, the enamel will be dry slow and soft. Hardener is an absolute with Alkyd Enamel.

For small jobs you can thin with plain lacquer thinner, but for larger jobs get some enamel reducer. Naphtha is recommended by Valspar, but in summer heat it evaporates too fast; leaving orange peel and dry spots. A good slow reducer (check with NAPA for a good enamel reducer) will allow you to put down some wet coats that flow out nicely.

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Re: Painting with Valspar Tractor and Implement
« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2014, 05:16:41 PM »
The hardener also helps to smooth out orange peel and give an even gloss. Very hard to get a nice finish on a hot day without it. It usually comes in different gloss levels. The most expensive will give a gloss that looks like it's wet.
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Re: Painting with Valspar Tractor and Implement
« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2014, 07:59:55 PM »
Still haven't painted yet, haven't had time.  I'm planning on doing it in the shop with the big door open, in the morning, so that once it's sprayed I can close the door while it dries.  I can cool the shop down easily enough..

I guess I need to order the hardener.

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Re: Painting with Valspar Tractor and Implement
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2014, 03:56:17 PM »
see what the Valspar recommends as a reducer. I painted a winch cradle last week with Rustoluem black and used some medium  enamel reducer that I had ,put 3 coats on it and let it sit 4 days. the paint never did "harden up" . it could be scratched/dented with a fingernail. As SD stated look into the hardener too.

I made the mistake of using Rustoleum thinned and sprayed several times years ago and finally decided never again, it was like the stuff never dried. I just moved on to other brands myself.

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Re: Painting with Valspar Tractor and Implement
« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2014, 05:11:49 PM »
Do not thin the primer. As far as hardner there are some major health concerns so you may want google that. You need a good mask or air supply to spray it.

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