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Earthquake Road Rebuild
« on: June 19, 2017, 12:49:01 PM »
While my truck is quiet during the winter I'm going to do some work for another guy who is helping with the rebuild of our main highway on the east coast that was devastated by an earthquake late last year. Not much time now as off to work soon but here's some pics, I'll add more info maybe tonight.


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Re: Earthquake Road Rebuild
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2017, 12:52:10 PM »
While my truck is quiet during the winter I'm going to do some work for another guy who is helping with the rebuild of our main highway on the east coast that was devastated by an earthquake late last year. Not much time now as off to work soon but here's some pics, I'll add more info maybe tonight.


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Re: Earthquake Road Rebuild
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2017, 03:08:04 PM »
Looks like a project!

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Re: Earthquake Road Rebuild
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2017, 08:41:24 PM »
Looks bloody chilly.
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Re: Earthquake Road Rebuild
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2017, 08:57:05 PM »
Shortest day tomorrow .....


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« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2017, 08:58:16 PM »
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Re: Earthquake Road Rebuild
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2017, 09:24:09 PM »
That road is wrecked!  I'd hate to be driving at night and encounter this little bump:


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Re: Earthquake Road Rebuild
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2017, 10:09:10 PM »
Quite a project. What's the timeline to have the road reopened ?
Started with nothing and still have most of it left.

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Re: Earthquake Road Rebuild
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2017, 10:30:46 PM »
They are saying the end of this year.... but we all know about deadlines  ! But they do seem to be bringing in more equipment all the time , every piece is given a number , at the moment they are up to number 100, which could be the total trucks , semis and the Articulated Dumpers ( ADTs ) and that's just working from the south end , I'm not sure what's happening from the north end .


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Re: Earthquake Road Rebuild
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2017, 11:31:59 PM »
Do they tax you on the fuel or mileage taxes or how do they get you for the cost of the roads? After the Northridge quake hit Los Angeles in the 90's several freeway bridges had to be replaced. Charlie Myers got the jobs and asked for a million dollar a day bonus for every day he beat the deadline. They agreed and he said he needed a new jet and beat the deadline by 25 days at least. When the railroad told him they didn't know when they could get a load of steel from Texas to him, he chartered a train and had it quick. He knew how to do a job.

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Re: Earthquake Road Rebuild
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2017, 02:49:23 AM »
Road funding in New Zealand.

In New Zealand petrol is taxed at the pump at around 67c/litre. About 60c of this goes into the NZ Transport Agency coffers, most of the rest goes to fund our Accident Compensation Corporation (A no fault accident medical and rehabilitation fund). Diesel is not taxed at the pump but all diesel vehicles are subject to a road user tax called Road User Charges (RUC). The cost per 1,000km for these vary based on the gross weight of the vehicle. For instance my ute falls into the under 3.5T category and RUC costs $62/1,000km (6.2c/km). For midnitemack's B-train, that he carts apples with, RUC costs $359/1,000km for the truck, another $61/1,000km for the front trailer and $125/1,000km for the second trailer for a grand total of $545/1,000km (54.5c/km), assuming I did the maths right and picked the correct combinations). There are nine classes of powered vehicles and  ten classes of trailer. This is before getting into specialist vehicles like all terrain cranes etc. It may seem a clunky system but it is actually quite fair as each type of vehicle pays for the "damage" it does to or how much it "uses up" the road.  RUC rates here.

NZTA  use petrol tax and RUC to fund roading. State highways are 100% funded from this fund and local roads are subsidised 50% (on average across the country) from the fund with the local ratepayer picking up the balance.  State highways  are only 12% of the total road network, they account for 50% of the vehicle kilometres driven every year and around two-thirds of the distance travelled by heavy freight vehicles.

Some roading, such as the reinstatement of SH1 after the Kaikoura earthquake and Roads of National Significance, basically infrastructure projects that injected cash into the economy during the last economic down turn, have additional funding from the general tax pool.

The one disadvantage of the RUC system is that it penalises the little highly efficient (50mpg+) diesel cars like the VW  1.4 TDI because they pay the same RUC as a 3.5T vehicle, making as the effective fuel per litre cost much more expensive than petrol.

Edit. Out of interest the fuel prices today in Tauranga are:

91 Octane Petrol - NZ$1.697/litre  (US$4.69/US gallon)
95 Octane Petrol - NZ$1.907/litre (US$5.27/US gallon)
Diesel - $0.957/litre  (US$2.64/US gallon)
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Re: Earthquake Road Rebuild
« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2017, 03:09:12 AM »
Aerial photos of some of the slips.










The main north/south railway runs parallel to the highway in this area and has been badly damaged as well.
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Earthquake Road Rebuild
« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2017, 03:40:08 AM »
This was happening today ... pretty skilled operator .... definitely big balls .....



It's way steeper than it looks .....


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Re: Earthquake Road Rebuild
« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2017, 09:01:50 AM »
Several thoughts

Rural, thanks for the insight on the taxes.  Big trucks seem to be getting hammered (Midnite would agree lolx)

Shocked at how cheap diesel is compared to petrol. 

Always surprised at how much of a grade equipment can operate on
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Re: Earthquake Road Rebuild
« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2017, 03:35:38 PM »
Thanks Justin for taking the time to post that great info. It isn't cheap to operate vehicles there. I guess we get off cheap here but the pols would like us to be paying what you pay or more.

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Re: Earthquake Road Rebuild
« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2017, 09:08:56 PM »
Geeze moving that slipped soil would sure be dangerous.
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Re: Earthquake Road Rebuild
« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2017, 12:45:39 AM »
What a difference a couple of days makes ......


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Re: Earthquake Road Rebuild
« Reply #18 on: June 22, 2017, 07:33:32 AM »
What are you running Mark? Pictures?

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Re: Earthquake Road Rebuild
« Reply #19 on: June 22, 2017, 10:25:36 AM »
What are you running Mark? Pictures?

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Re: Earthquake Road Rebuild
« Reply #20 on: June 22, 2017, 10:55:51 AM »
What are you running Mark? Pictures?

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Sorry , but only pics I have at this stage . There's all sorts of gear here on the job.....
1990s vintage Nissan, the Japanese trucks are pretty bulletproof for this type off work , with the trailer I get about 50,000 lbs on per load , the haul is less than 10 miles, because it's through the construction area a good bit of it is single lane so there's lots of waiting .




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Re: Earthquake Road Rebuild
« Reply #21 on: June 22, 2017, 07:53:13 PM »
Well that's a little disappointing. I expected something like this lolx





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Re: Earthquake Road Rebuild
« Reply #22 on: June 22, 2017, 08:58:17 PM »
Well that's a little disappointing. I expected something like this lolx





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Have a look at the video on this page http://www.stuff.co.nz/marlborough-express/news/93814801/six-months-on-nctirs-road-and-rail-rebuild-on-target, plenty of ADTs there and a good indication of the scale of some of the slips.


The video was filmed over five months from January to early May to show the work underway to reopen the road and rail by Christmas. Since this video was filmed, five of the ten large landslides and 70% of the material that came down last November has been cleared.
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« Reply #23 on: June 22, 2017, 09:52:10 PM »
Mark just sent me some videos, pretty big and neat project he has going on there!

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Re: Earthquake Road Rebuild
« Reply #24 on: June 22, 2017, 10:32:51 PM »
What are they doing with all the dirt?
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Re: Earthquake Road Rebuild
« Reply #25 on: June 22, 2017, 11:43:41 PM »
and what are the plans to keep it from happening again? that's a buttload moved dirt.
Started with nothing and still have most of it left.

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Re: Earthquake Road Rebuild
« Reply #26 on: June 25, 2017, 04:28:55 AM »
What are they doing with all the dirt?

From the Pics you can see the scale of the dump site, my estimate is it's likely 40 or 50 acres alongside a river,  some of it has been built up already about twice the height of  a 20 ton digger. They stopped the trucks with trailers running after we had a couple of wet days , so you can see the slushy wet conditions we had to deal with.....


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Re: Earthquake Road Rebuild
« Reply #27 on: June 25, 2017, 04:43:31 AM »
The biggest slip, number 6, rumour has it that it totals almost 300,000 cubic metres...... that will be  more than a few days work..... when you maybe have an average size load with the trucks of 15 cubic metres.....do the math, it's mind boggling !!!

Slipknot.... we have no idea when anything similar could happen, along part of it the railroad tracks are being moved further away from the bottom of the hillside to make them less vulnerable in the event of future quakes.... but for the most part there is nowhere else to go.....

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Re: Earthquake Road Rebuild
« Reply #29 on: July 10, 2017, 03:31:32 PM »
More video here  https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/94487345/chch-dilemmas-the-road-to-kaikoura

Thanks for that Justin, I was just trying to do the same thing but saw you beat me to it.... alot of the same people on there I see every day I work there.....

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« Reply #30 on: July 10, 2017, 07:48:37 PM »
How far along schedule are you?

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« Reply #31 on: July 14, 2017, 05:16:22 AM »
Is it snowing there yet?   stirthepot
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Re: Earthquake Road Rebuild
« Reply #32 on: July 14, 2017, 05:22:35 AM »
Is it snowing there yet?   stirthepot

I'm working week on, week off Justin.....guess I got lucky... this is my week off, with that storm I hear they shut the site down on Wednesday, supposed to be kicking off again on Monday.

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« Reply #33 on: July 24, 2017, 08:55:47 PM »
Here is an article on the temporary workers village they have built for this project.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/95023680/christchurch-man-ups-sticks-to-call-kaikoura-accommodation-village-home
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« Reply #35 on: December 17, 2017, 03:26:25 PM »
It reopened to traffic a couple of days ago


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Re: Earthquake Road Rebuild
« Reply #36 on: December 18, 2017, 02:01:37 PM »
Neat project, as challenging as it looks there is nothing manhours, equipment, and $$$ cant resolve.

I feel for the guys staying in those work camps. As comfy as the company's try to make them feel they are still miserable to stay in. Almost all camps are dry but some Ahole always sneaks booze in, gets drunk, and wakes everone up at 2-3 am.
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Re: Earthquake Road Rebuild
« Reply #37 on: December 20, 2017, 09:16:35 PM »
One of our young geotechnical engineers returned from Kaikoura today. He has been down there supervising some of the rock fall prevention work. He is working at Ohau Point north of Kaikoura.

For scale those are standard shipping containers lining the road as rock catchers. The old road is on the bench above the new road that is built on a new sea wall. The area of grey on the bluff is about the area of a football field and is the start of rock netting. Originally they hung a net made of wire rope rings, about a foot in diameter, to retain any loose material so the abseilers could scale (push loose rocks off) the area below. Most of the face you can see has been scaled. They have now put the permanent steel net (3" mesh) in place and are in the process of rock bolting it to the face at 5' centres. The rock bolts are abot 15'-20' long. The whole face above the sandstone line you can see below the net they have finished needs to have net installed. They also have a few big, up to 700t, boulders lower down that they need to secure to the face. Even though the road is open there is still a lot of work to do. His office is in the trees at the top of the cliff. He and the abseilers are flown up and down by helicopter each day.
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« Reply #38 on: December 20, 2017, 09:21:14 PM »
Wow - I get vertigo just looking at that mountainside.

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Re: Earthquake Road Rebuild
« Reply #39 on: December 20, 2017, 10:51:15 PM »
Wow, you'd think re-routing the road would be more cost effective.  shrugx

But you should see some of the crap around here after the hurricane. I was talking with a guy along the coast. He got 3ft of tidal surge in his home. FEMA told him he had to raise it 18" to get coverage again.  headscratch headscratch
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« Reply #40 on: December 20, 2017, 11:06:18 PM »
Basically no room between the seas and the Kaikoura Ranges.




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Re: Earthquake Road Rebuild
« Reply #41 on: December 21, 2017, 09:36:37 AM »
Wow, most folks never think of what it takes to build a road in rough terrain.  Great pics
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« Reply #42 on: December 21, 2017, 08:21:30 PM »
Wow amazing views

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Re: Earthquake Road Rebuild
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